Нужен спец по модификации комба Vox AC30 BM, инфу прилагаю ниже.

1 Июн 2008
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Смотрите архив, внутри 2 PDF:
1.инстурукция к этому комбу.
2.подробная инфа по модификации, с картинками.
Нужен человек, который приедет ко мне домой и все это сделает по уму.
Вот еще прилагаю инфу от Фраера, тоже по подобной модификации:
Fryer modified AC30BM amplifier

In 2005 I bought my first AC30BM amp after seeing it being announced as a clone of Brian's current amps modified by Dave Petersen. I went to the store and brought along my KZ Red Special guitar and two treble boosters to try the amp with. I played the amp cranked at full volume and was very excited to be buying the same amp as Brian used even though it felt a bit dead in the music store room which I put down to how these rooms often sound. Anyway I got a great deal on the AC30BM because I knew the guy who ran the drum department.



Back home with the new AC30 I was of course
curious to try it out with all my own gear and
now used my THD Hotplate and Weber Mini Mass
attenuators (later sold and replaced with the
Marshall PB-100). Using these with the full volume
amp I noticed the amp had serious undertones/
ghost tones and the more I played it I realised it
actually wasn't playable this way.

I contacted a few friends like Mark Reynolds and
Martin Pitcher and they were all surprised about this
- they are experienced for many years in playing the
Vox AC30s as people would know. I also wrote an
email to Brian May at his website and within a few
days I had a reply from the then chief designer of
Vox Steve Grindrod on how to solve this undertone problem. I also talked to my amptech Ola and he said I should bring the amp to him to have a look at. After Ola added new electrolytic smoothing caps the amp was better but was still too overpowered and in general the sound had improved.
Then I found another AC30BM amp here and it did not have such bad undertones so I bought it and stuck with it in its original condition until a resistor burned out. Because I had no idea what caused this I published soundclips and messages on various internet forums and within a day I got a reply from Greg Fryer about what could have caused the problem.

After this Greg and I started to discuss the
design of these amps and then at the Red
Special group meetup in UK I tried one of
the AC30BM amps that Mike Ryde modified
with Greg Fryer's assistance. This amp
sounded great and was a big improvement
from standard. Looking back at my AC30BM
amp here I then said to Greg I wanted
something like Mike's amp but maybe not so
hot sounding and more like a TBX or old Vox.
Greg started to work on this and came up with
ideas and also supplied me with parts
(new output transformer, choke, caps, resistors *New OT and choke fitted
and pots). I then let my amptech Ola Lehnert at
LH-Musik here in Stockholm do these mods. Ola is a well respected amptech and has his own amp brand, see http://www.lehnert-amps.com/

Greg and I have probably emailed each other about the AC30BM ideas at least 100 times discussing the 3 versions of the mod and the great thing about Greg is that he 100% understands what a non-tech guy like me means when I say this is wrong sounding or I want my amp to sound like this.

After the first version of the new mod we found the amp sounded much better but was still a little too fizzy sounding and I was a bit surprised by this. It was much improved but this fizziness was too much and I wanted to change other things too. Ola then did a stage 2 mod which had the amp sound improved more and a tone control idea added.

I then found out that the amps in all the Chinese Vox amps use the Chinese made Celestion Alnico Blue speakers and they are different sounding in this fizzy way compared to the proper UK made Celestion Alnico Blues. Apparently they do not use the proper Mueller H1777 cone that the UK Celestion Blues use. Here is a soundsample comparing the two: UK blues VS Chinese blues

Plugging in my TBX UK made Celestion Blue speakers into the same amp head with same settings the sound is so much better, and especially the difference is heard live listening to the amp in person.

 

Вложения

3rd step with the AC30BM amp mods:
after playing the amp live and in the studio
I felt we needed to tweak further with the
circuit to reduce some remaining
over-fizziness/treble in its sound and again
Greg Fryer did some thinking and I got sent
more caps and resistors. With Ola we took
out the stage 2 mod tone control, and then
simulated the Vox original "Cut" circuit set
how BM likes it and replaced the 2 100nf
coupling caps with 150nf caps like they used
in the 1970s AC30s. The amp now sounds like
a dream with no undertones and an amazing
rich sound, and I am using my TBX UK
Celestion Alnico Blue speakers in it.

*New equipped powerboard


Here is a list of all the things that have been done and what parts have been removed and replaced:

*Removed the output transformer and replaced it with a Greg Fryer custom made
*transformer
*Removed the choke and replaced with a Dave Peterson custom choke
*Replaced various electrolytic and signal capacitors, resistors and volume pot
*Completely removed the booster circuit
*Completely removed the 15/30W switching
*Original Chinese Celestion Blue speakers removed and replaced with UK
*Celestion Blue

I think it is a shame that Vox let an amp go out like this onto the market and I honestly feel a bit embarassed at not hearing the problems with the speakers and undertones earlier. Guitar amps are not rocket science and I don't know why Vox didn't pick up these problems in their R&D area and also why they changed the Dave Petersen amp design so much that Brian was using at the time. From what I have been told the Vox AC30BM design was changed a lot from the DP amp design that Brian has. Fortunately many things have happened since the AC30BM was released and thanks to guys like Greg and Dave we now have the chance to make the amps sound like they should be.
 
замена выходного транса, замена динамика, замена некоторых деталей по схеме ... с выездом на дому такое вряд ли качественно можно сделать, плюс возможно еще понадобится замена и подбор ламп

вы уверены что это действительно необходимо ? что конкретно не устраивает в оригинальном АС-30 ВМ ? вопросы не праздные, так как стоимость таких работ + комплектующие, которых как я понимаю нет - это практически еще один такой комбик - а результат переделки может совсем не оправдать ваши ожидания

я бы для начала, чтобы минимизировать затраты, начал бы с замены динамиков, ежели таковые есть в наличии - все-же 90% звука гитарного комбика это коробка + динамик и только потом, если возникнет необходимость стал бы потрошить схему - потому что в приложенной вами пдфке никаких грандиозных принципиальных изменений нет, имхо мужика хай-ендщик какой то покусал
 
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да и на дому у клиента... этим обычно никто не занимается, только если за бешенные деньги:)
 
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пасибки всем, я просто думал что это все быстро и недорого можно сделать, в подробности не вдавался, так как в этом не понимаю. а про модинг- ну посчитал что с ним наверно лучше , чем без него, иначе зачем все эти подробные описаловы с картинками делали сидели. наверно не просто так же:girl_dance:
 
моддинг делается с какой-то целью... а когда она определена - находят уже путь решения проблемы, а никак ни наоборот....
 
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Андрей - таки что ви хотите от бедного АС30 ? - давайте я вам соберу мастеровой ламповый SSM-Сustom =) а потом мы махнемся неглядя =)
 
я пока затрудняюсь ответить ... у мну стоит хороший ламповый задел на 30 ватт под 12" голову - но пока нет ламп и я не решил что делать по входным цепям - (т/е сколько каналов делать) - по моим нуждам мне всего лишь нужен один единственный канал без перегруза, и сроки готовности не ясны - я не занимаюсь этим на коммерческой основе, здесь вопросы вдохновения и времени
 

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