разницу слышу. в smpl1 и smpl3 нравится больше hd, чем hm.
В smpl2 больше нравится hm. Предположу, что hd писано через аналог.
В smpl2 больше нравится hm. Предположу, что hd писано через аналог.
pod xt vs gearbox plugin: сравнительный тест.
- Автор темы SoNick
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тест имхо действительно странноват. естественно результаты будут отличаться, поскольку в случае хт в карту идет уже готовый звуг, а в случае плага - сырой. эффект замыливания звука картой просто применяется в разных местах цепочки. оттого и разница. RaCh прав, если оба варианта записать по юсб, разница будет минимальна, если вообще будет.
По просьбам трудящихся еще один тест. Этот тест будет полезен тем кто не использует pod xt в студийной практике. Сигнал записан через usb pod`а. На вход pod`а пущен один единственный семпл. Здесь более-менее можно оценить НИЗ. К сожалению остальной спектр особо не удасться оценить, т.к. "ощутимой" разницы не слышно именно по "вышеописанным" причинам. Я думаю для всех кто еще сомневался - сомнения разъвеяны. И даже тут можно расслышать что в hd прибавляется "смазанность" и "глухота". Вот такие пироги) Так что usb-не usb - не в этом вопрос. Семпл - не семпл - не в этом вопрос. Всё равно звук не тот.... Я надеюсь что помог не только себе. Кто еще сомневается покупать gearbox plugin или не покупать - слушайте тесты. Остальное дело за вами 
SoNick, послушал тест, звучание действительно разное.
хд мне понравился больше, более отчетлевый и не такой "мыльный"...
хд мне понравился больше, более отчетлевый и не такой "мыльный"...
SoNick,
про тест - сам звуг ваще ацтой, явные шумы тракта - то ли от кабелей, то ли звуковухи
подхт линия (сам подх и производные) так не шумит
о каких то замыленностях или чистоте говорить просто смешно - как говориться, эквипенисуально
но в hd шумов меньше
про тест - сам звуг ваще ацтой, явные шумы тракта - то ли от кабелей, то ли звуковухи
подхт линия (сам подх и производные) так не шумит
о каких то замыленностях или чистоте говорить просто смешно - как говориться, эквипенисуально
но в hd шумов меньше
Шнуры имеют большое значение!!!
Я недавно прешел на "HORIZON" - Земля и Небо!!!! :blink:
Всё МЫЛО пропало!!!
Особенно ясно в БАСУ это слышно!!!
Я недавно прешел на "HORIZON" - Земля и Небо!!!! :blink:
Всё МЫЛО пропало!!!
Особенно ясно в БАСУ это слышно!!!
dmrecords и правильно что в hd - шумов меньше. Ведь gearbox plugin смазывает не только полезный гитарный сигнал, но и все шумы в округе 
В целом, в конечном тесте, шум и "галимость" звука слышны из-за того, что использован семпл, который прошел тракт АЦП-ЦАП-АЦП. Т.е. воспроизведен с другого ПК в лайн Ин pod`а.
В целом, в конечном тесте, шум и "галимость" звука слышны из-за того, что использован семпл, который прошел тракт АЦП-ЦАП-АЦП. Т.е. воспроизведен с другого ПК в лайн Ин pod`а.
А вот ссылка на отзыв о gearbox plugin vs pod xt.
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews...earbox+VST/10/1
Третий отзыв, раздел Sounds/Sound Quality:
Sounds/Sound Quality : 7
How does it sound? In a mix? Any tricks to make it better?
Do you find the presets adequate, or do you find yourself needing to tweak every time?
If the plug-in is an instrument, is it expressive?
Is operation mono or stereo? Any bit-depths or sample rates not supported?
For instruments, what's the maximum polyphony? Is it multi-timbral?
Sounds: I??m a metal player so take this into account while you read.
Oh Boy.... I did as much research as I could on the line 6 forums, asked a few questions and did lot??s of searching in the Toneport/Gearbox and POD forums. I wanted to be sure the VST sounded EXACTLY like a PODxt. From what I read there and on the harmony central toneport reviews, the VST sounded the same. In my opinion it does not sound the same at all.....
I think the hardware version (PODxt) sounds phenomenal. I love it to death even after owning it for almost two years. I??ve owned a V-amp2 and used GR1 and GR2...none of these come close the the PODxt.
That being said, after a few moments of using the gearbox VST I noticed that it didn??t have the oomph of the PODxt. The VST models sounded one dimensional compared to the xt sounds. I??d say gearbox is one step ahead as far as high gain goes compared to GR2 but only a tiny step mind you. I decided to compare my own patches on both the VST and POD and I noticed a definite difference. I decided research further and use the PODxt USB reamping capability to get the proper input levels into the gearbox VST and compare them with regular reamped PODxt sounds. A little better but still there was something missing in Gearbox.
I popped in a pre-eq plugin before gearbox and did some tweaking and found a little more improvement but still no chunky xt sounds.
I switched the plugin eq for my GE-7 (guitar-> GE-7-> PODxt) and still no dice. I chucked my xt patches and started making patches from scratch. Ok, here I noticed an improvement. Making patches in Gearbox is the way to go, POD patches in gearbox don??t sound the same to me, I started to look at gearbox as a seperate animal from the POD. I found that using a little room reverb and A.I.R with the patches worked well at masking and smoothing out the harsh typical guitar VST sounds. A little less gain also helped too. Layered and panned tracks began to sound much better too. Palm mutes are where I hear the biggest difference betewwn Gearbox and PODxt, Gearbox has the bassy growel of POD but the higher frequencies are fuzzy and undefined.
I know how hard it is to get a hang of the PODxt, you??ve got to love tweaking! It took my several months to start getting the sounds I liked out of the POD. I started by studying some very good patches I downloaded and learned some the techniques to get bigger sounds. Since then I??ve made all my own patches. That??s why Customtone is almost useless unless you??re starting with a Line 6 product because every guitar and pick and pickup and is different. A downloaded tone is only a stating point to making a great patch work for you. I hope to be able to replicate the sound of the MS Big Bottom, Bomber Uber and Criminal amp from the PODxt in a VST, I want them to sound exactly the same.... I??ll keep trying.
To sum it up I??d say out of the box, Gearbox sounds about 70% like to PODxt. With tweaking maybe 80%.... I??m going for 100%
Так что я не первый кто забил тревогу по теме топика. Парень очень точно описывает ощущения от разницы звучания plugin и podxt. На примерах, в пашке топика, это и слышно.
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews...earbox+VST/10/1
Третий отзыв, раздел Sounds/Sound Quality:
Sounds/Sound Quality : 7
How does it sound? In a mix? Any tricks to make it better?
Do you find the presets adequate, or do you find yourself needing to tweak every time?
If the plug-in is an instrument, is it expressive?
Is operation mono or stereo? Any bit-depths or sample rates not supported?
For instruments, what's the maximum polyphony? Is it multi-timbral?
Sounds: I??m a metal player so take this into account while you read.
Oh Boy.... I did as much research as I could on the line 6 forums, asked a few questions and did lot??s of searching in the Toneport/Gearbox and POD forums. I wanted to be sure the VST sounded EXACTLY like a PODxt. From what I read there and on the harmony central toneport reviews, the VST sounded the same. In my opinion it does not sound the same at all.....
I think the hardware version (PODxt) sounds phenomenal. I love it to death even after owning it for almost two years. I??ve owned a V-amp2 and used GR1 and GR2...none of these come close the the PODxt.
That being said, after a few moments of using the gearbox VST I noticed that it didn??t have the oomph of the PODxt. The VST models sounded one dimensional compared to the xt sounds. I??d say gearbox is one step ahead as far as high gain goes compared to GR2 but only a tiny step mind you. I decided to compare my own patches on both the VST and POD and I noticed a definite difference. I decided research further and use the PODxt USB reamping capability to get the proper input levels into the gearbox VST and compare them with regular reamped PODxt sounds. A little better but still there was something missing in Gearbox.
I popped in a pre-eq plugin before gearbox and did some tweaking and found a little more improvement but still no chunky xt sounds.
I switched the plugin eq for my GE-7 (guitar-> GE-7-> PODxt) and still no dice. I chucked my xt patches and started making patches from scratch. Ok, here I noticed an improvement. Making patches in Gearbox is the way to go, POD patches in gearbox don??t sound the same to me, I started to look at gearbox as a seperate animal from the POD. I found that using a little room reverb and A.I.R with the patches worked well at masking and smoothing out the harsh typical guitar VST sounds. A little less gain also helped too. Layered and panned tracks began to sound much better too. Palm mutes are where I hear the biggest difference betewwn Gearbox and PODxt, Gearbox has the bassy growel of POD but the higher frequencies are fuzzy and undefined.
I know how hard it is to get a hang of the PODxt, you??ve got to love tweaking! It took my several months to start getting the sounds I liked out of the POD. I started by studying some very good patches I downloaded and learned some the techniques to get bigger sounds. Since then I??ve made all my own patches. That??s why Customtone is almost useless unless you??re starting with a Line 6 product because every guitar and pick and pickup and is different. A downloaded tone is only a stating point to making a great patch work for you. I hope to be able to replicate the sound of the MS Big Bottom, Bomber Uber and Criminal amp from the PODxt in a VST, I want them to sound exactly the same.... I??ll keep trying.
To sum it up I??d say out of the box, Gearbox sounds about 70% like to PODxt. With tweaking maybe 80%.... I??m going for 100%
Так что я не первый кто забил тревогу по теме топика. Парень очень точно описывает ощущения от разницы звучания plugin и podxt. На примерах, в пашке топика, это и слышно.
разница может быть только из-за входного тракта.
в одном случае это line6 девайс. в другом - аудио карта стоимостью от 100 до 10000$. чем дешевле карта, тем слышнее будет разница. ну че тут удивительного?
в одном случае это line6 девайс. в другом - аудио карта стоимостью от 100 до 10000$. чем дешевле карта, тем слышнее будет разница. ну че тут удивительного?