VST System Link
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А поподробнее ....
просто есть еще один системник - без дела стоит - может его зацепить для облгчения работы ???
просто есть еще один системник - без дела стоит - может его зацепить для облгчения работы ???
... я тут короче рассписал ето дело .. но вся беда по туземски писал .. а переписывать уж времени нима ... вот если надо ..
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This is somewhat similar to a concept of Stineberg's VST System Link
concept only you don't have to have Cubase SX to implement this.
http://www.steinberg.net/en/ps/products/mu...index.php?sid=0
What you do need:
1. Second PC (doesn't have to be overly powerful but more mem and cpu speed means more voices in vsti's you can use) running windows os (doesn't matter which i used xp )
2. Both Master and Slave DAW have to have network cards and connected together via crossover cable (NOTE: different from standart LAN patch cable but just as easily attainable in bestbuy or radioshack) (or if you have a hub in your home network it will work just as well with two systems connected to a hub. i used a crossover cable between systems that way i have less stuff to connect )
3. ASIO compatible card in the second (slave daw) system better yet `multi-channel` I/O card that way you can run vsti' on separate channels and have more control over sound routing.
out of software you'll need:
Musiclab's MidiOverLan+
http://www.musiclab.com/products/rpl_info.htm
Stineberg's `V-Stack`
http://www.steinberg.net/en/ps/products/mu...index.php?sid=0
(NOTE: `V-Stack` is needed to house 16 vsti' but not necessary you may want to use a second system as a dedicated sampler by loading up standalone version of Kontact or Hallion etc. You may also load multiple standalone virtual synth as well if you wish. I chose `V-Stack` for ease of setting up routing and support for vst effects, clean interface. )
I use Logic thus will describe using examples in logic but i would imagine that setting up other sequencers would not be that complex.
Big picture of how this works:
Both Master and Slave DAW will have MidiOverLan driver installed and configured (it is very easy to do so, takes one quick read over the manual on the MusicLab's site ) Once installed and configured you will get a set of 16 midi channels on both systems. Master Daw LAN OUT 00 and Slave Daw LAN IN 00. (it is possible to expand it much more than that with multiple emulations of MidiOverLan driver but for one system you need only one. if you want to setup a third computer you may do so at later time). What midiOverLan accomplishes is getting rid of a midi interface box and midi cables. (Now I just see someone running a wireless network in their house syncing up 10 systems with 160 virtual insruments feeing into patchbays and into a mixing console icon_smile.gif and having no cables all over the place other than audio stakes.... and yes it seems to be possible)
Your Master Daw will use MidiOverLan to controll, synchronize with Slave Daw. On the Slave Daw run `V-Stack` 5 or 6 (you get 16 total) of your vavorite VSTi's and use Mixer properties of the `V-Stack` to setup routing.
you may group outputs of all VSTi's into one BUS or if you have multichannel I/O split them up so each instrument gets a dedicated audio stream.(BUS1 = Out1/2, BUS2=Out3/4, BUS3=Out5/6, etc) ( I have used Roland RPC1 card 8x8 I/O to feed each VSTi via RBUS cable directly into my VM3100 Pro mixer without `AD-DA` conversion all digital ) but any I/O card with ASIO will work, as long as you have room on your mixer/mixing counsol to patch everything in, if not you can just use BUS1 for all the vsti's and it will require you to have only one input on your mixer.
Set Midi channels of on `V-Stack` for each VSTi.
Presuming you running Logic on your Master Daw. Setup environment.
Open "Environment" window. Add "MidiOUT interface" use "LAN OUT 00" for its driver, then add "MultiChannel Instument" and connect it to your "MidiOUT interface" (drag an arrow from MultiChannel Instrument (which by the way you can rename into "VIR" for Virtual Insturment Rack icon_smile.gif ) over to the "MidiOut Interface" Make sure that you have clicked and enabled channels in the Multichannel Instrument by default they are crossed out.
Back in the "Arrange" window you may now add a midi track and select
from a dropdown list of instruments a name of the MultiChannel Instrument you just configured in the environment.
Make sure:
Network between two systems is setup right and you can ping each one.
(MidiOverLan uses UDP protocol theoretically you only need properly configured TCP/IP other windows networking services are not necessary )
MidiOverLan is configured on both systems and you've read the configuration page on MusicLab's website.
`V-Stack` has instruments loaded and each one has midi configured.
Output of the Slave Daw (`V-Stack`) patched in and routed into the mixer (or back into your Master daw if you have a powerful I/O card on it and not using external mixer)
Play a sequence on your sequencer and you should hear your Slave Daw
playing a corresponding VSTi .... all in time, with all voices of that VSTi full blast icon_smile.gif now go nuts and experiment with Kontakt. then setup that wireless network with ten systems .. 160 vsti's ..... have a blast icon_smile.gif
I'm pretty sure someone outhere figured this out long time ago (dedicated gigastudio systems, dedicated sampler systems .. etc) icon_smile.gif and probably posted somewhere .... but i've been looking for some time now and confused everyone on RolandstudioPack forum with my questions. and with no result. so i guess i got tickled a bit when made it work with tools i had, so here it is in case you ever thought about how to do it but just like me couldn't figure out where to start.
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This is somewhat similar to a concept of Stineberg's VST System Link
concept only you don't have to have Cubase SX to implement this.
http://www.steinberg.net/en/ps/products/mu...index.php?sid=0
What you do need:
1. Second PC (doesn't have to be overly powerful but more mem and cpu speed means more voices in vsti's you can use) running windows os (doesn't matter which i used xp )
2. Both Master and Slave DAW have to have network cards and connected together via crossover cable (NOTE: different from standart LAN patch cable but just as easily attainable in bestbuy or radioshack) (or if you have a hub in your home network it will work just as well with two systems connected to a hub. i used a crossover cable between systems that way i have less stuff to connect )
3. ASIO compatible card in the second (slave daw) system better yet `multi-channel` I/O card that way you can run vsti' on separate channels and have more control over sound routing.
out of software you'll need:
Musiclab's MidiOverLan+
http://www.musiclab.com/products/rpl_info.htm
Stineberg's `V-Stack`
http://www.steinberg.net/en/ps/products/mu...index.php?sid=0
(NOTE: `V-Stack` is needed to house 16 vsti' but not necessary you may want to use a second system as a dedicated sampler by loading up standalone version of Kontact or Hallion etc. You may also load multiple standalone virtual synth as well if you wish. I chose `V-Stack` for ease of setting up routing and support for vst effects, clean interface. )
I use Logic thus will describe using examples in logic but i would imagine that setting up other sequencers would not be that complex.
Big picture of how this works:
Both Master and Slave DAW will have MidiOverLan driver installed and configured (it is very easy to do so, takes one quick read over the manual on the MusicLab's site ) Once installed and configured you will get a set of 16 midi channels on both systems. Master Daw LAN OUT 00 and Slave Daw LAN IN 00. (it is possible to expand it much more than that with multiple emulations of MidiOverLan driver but for one system you need only one. if you want to setup a third computer you may do so at later time). What midiOverLan accomplishes is getting rid of a midi interface box and midi cables. (Now I just see someone running a wireless network in their house syncing up 10 systems with 160 virtual insruments feeing into patchbays and into a mixing console icon_smile.gif and having no cables all over the place other than audio stakes.... and yes it seems to be possible)
Your Master Daw will use MidiOverLan to controll, synchronize with Slave Daw. On the Slave Daw run `V-Stack` 5 or 6 (you get 16 total) of your vavorite VSTi's and use Mixer properties of the `V-Stack` to setup routing.
you may group outputs of all VSTi's into one BUS or if you have multichannel I/O split them up so each instrument gets a dedicated audio stream.(BUS1 = Out1/2, BUS2=Out3/4, BUS3=Out5/6, etc) ( I have used Roland RPC1 card 8x8 I/O to feed each VSTi via RBUS cable directly into my VM3100 Pro mixer without `AD-DA` conversion all digital ) but any I/O card with ASIO will work, as long as you have room on your mixer/mixing counsol to patch everything in, if not you can just use BUS1 for all the vsti's and it will require you to have only one input on your mixer.
Set Midi channels of on `V-Stack` for each VSTi.
Presuming you running Logic on your Master Daw. Setup environment.
Open "Environment" window. Add "MidiOUT interface" use "LAN OUT 00" for its driver, then add "MultiChannel Instument" and connect it to your "MidiOUT interface" (drag an arrow from MultiChannel Instrument (which by the way you can rename into "VIR" for Virtual Insturment Rack icon_smile.gif ) over to the "MidiOut Interface" Make sure that you have clicked and enabled channels in the Multichannel Instrument by default they are crossed out.
Back in the "Arrange" window you may now add a midi track and select
from a dropdown list of instruments a name of the MultiChannel Instrument you just configured in the environment.
Make sure:
Network between two systems is setup right and you can ping each one.
(MidiOverLan uses UDP protocol theoretically you only need properly configured TCP/IP other windows networking services are not necessary )
MidiOverLan is configured on both systems and you've read the configuration page on MusicLab's website.
`V-Stack` has instruments loaded and each one has midi configured.
Output of the Slave Daw (`V-Stack`) patched in and routed into the mixer (or back into your Master daw if you have a powerful I/O card on it and not using external mixer)
Play a sequence on your sequencer and you should hear your Slave Daw
playing a corresponding VSTi .... all in time, with all voices of that VSTi full blast icon_smile.gif now go nuts and experiment with Kontakt. then setup that wireless network with ten systems .. 160 vsti's ..... have a blast icon_smile.gif
I'm pretty sure someone outhere figured this out long time ago (dedicated gigastudio systems, dedicated sampler systems .. etc) icon_smile.gif and probably posted somewhere .... but i've been looking for some time now and confused everyone on RolandstudioPack forum with my questions. and with no result. so i guess i got tickled a bit when made it work with tools i had, so here it is in case you ever thought about how to do it but just like me couldn't figure out where to start.
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